View Full Version : ADC vs Huebsch Dryers
Sunflower
08-11-2006, 07:31 PM
I'm looking at ADC and Huebsch Dryers.
I'd go w/either used Huebsch stack Originators (30) that I already have or new Huebsch Stacks. BUT I've been thinking about ADC dryers because I am sick to death of pulling all the construction workers screws and nails out of Huebsch air holes and sweep sheets.
Would ADC owners share their thoughts on the ADC dryers. It looks like they use QUITE A BIT LESS BTU'S then my Huebsch OR the new Huebsch stacks I'm considering...
Also, sounds like 45 or 50 lb dryers are faster than 30's. Is this right?
soapman
08-12-2006, 07:17 PM
I put in ADC dryers about 6 months ago. They are very very efficient.
And I had the same problem with nails and screws with my old machines. The ADC dryer has no holes so no-place for the nails to go.
dryersrus
08-14-2006, 12:03 PM
Hi Sunflower, That is true our dryers will only use 55,00BTU's (30lber's) of gas and you won't have to worry about nails or so forth getting caught in the basket holes due to the axial air flow system there are no holes on the sides of the basket. Please PM me with your phone number and i'll be more than happy to talk more with you about the dryers and/or direct you to someone for some price quotes on these dryers.
soapman
08-16-2006, 09:16 PM
I was with a friend last week trying to repair Dexter dryers with a hole in the basket from nail or screws, this is a very expensive problem and not easy to fix so that customers clothes don't get snagged. Is it only ADC that makes a solid basket? Can you get a solid basket for a Dexter?
Sunflower
08-16-2006, 10:42 PM
Take what you have to one of your local welders and have them weld a smooth plate to the tumbler. We did it for two of ours. Worked like a charm and cost $60. ;)
fluffy
08-16-2006, 10:45 PM
Answer to your question is no on putting a solid basket into the Dexter since the airflow is different design. My understanding is that repairing a basket tear is not tremendously difficult (someone mentioned in a previous post that a kit was available also), but I've never had this problem in my five years of running these dryers.
I did hear from an ADC rep that they sent back a bunch of Solaris that had a problem ripping clothes when they were caught in the front of the solid basket.
No perfect answers
I have some old Huebsch Loadstar II ,those have the same air flow design as Dexter,ADC 285,ADC236,I don't really have too many problems with the drums,need fix a few once a while,those dryer are over 30 years old.If you fix right away,it should not be a big problem.
I have not seen anyone build a brand new store with all ADC's new dryers in my area.I don't know if I can educate my customers:DON"T FEEL THE GLASS!if my customers will ever use the dryer when they can not feel the heat come out the dryer glass.
pete f
08-18-2006, 08:10 PM
I have some old Huebsch Loadstar II ,those have the same air flow design as Dexter,ADC 285,ADC236,I don't really have too many problems with the drums,need fix a few once a while,those dryer are over 30 years old.If you fix right away,it should not be a big problem.
I have not seen anyone build a brand new store with all ADC's new dryers in my area.I don't know if I can educated my customers:DON"T FEEL THE GLASS!if my customers will ever use the dryer when they can not feel the heat come out the dryer glass.
Hmm .. so the possibility of a dryer door with NO fingerprints may exist in a decade or so? I heard SQ went with the axil flow to direct heat to the front glass just for this reason!
I don't know other market but in my area,customers love to feel the glass,love to get burned by they steel buttons,don't like the cool down cycle......I guess I don't spend enough time in my store teach class like dryer 101,washer 101.
soapman
08-18-2006, 10:47 PM
The customers learn in a hurry that the ADC are cool on the outside but real hot on the inside. The 2 door glasses really make a difference.
Sunflower
08-18-2006, 11:44 PM
Just from the owners standpoint I am SICK OF MY HOT HOT DRYERS. Just try and pull clothes out of those things. As a customer, I would not want to scald my hands... My dryers are so damn hot and yet they still take 4-55 minutes.... Frustration.
Sunflower
08-18-2006, 11:45 PM
The customers learn in a hurry that the ADC are cool on the outside but real hot on the inside. The 2 door glasses really make a difference.
I like it! But my I'm crazy about the Huebsch Dealer in my area (sob).
pete f
08-19-2006, 06:54 PM
when you remolded the store did you change any dryers? I am wondering if you have enough for the wash capacity you have now. Add up all your washers capacity and devide by 23. The number is the min amount of 30# dryer pockets you need.
Sunflower
08-20-2006, 12:47 AM
Hmm, we have 398 pounds of washing capacity (all at once). If did this right I came up with 17.30...
I currently have 12 30lb dryers (6 stack units and it's not enough WHEN we're full and definitely WHEN we do W,D,F for fires). Normally, it's no problem but I cringe when I go in and people are waiting. I think part of the problem is people cram two 20lb loads in one 30 pounder OR an old canvas sleeping bag, misc. gear, etc. into the machines and they get backed up...
Sunflower
08-20-2006, 12:48 AM
Ooops!!! Okay, I see!!! We are sorely lacking in the dryer department. That explains it! Out goes the back wall.
soapman
08-20-2006, 08:52 AM
I have both kinds of dryers, the customers say the clothes come out flufflier out of the ADCs. If you are tight on space along a wall they make a narrow 30lb machine,I haven't used it but it looks like my machines only skinny. We do lots of W/D/F and even out of the slow spin front loader it never takes more than 40min to dry a big load.
55 minutes is a long time, do you get customer complaints?
Just from the owners standpoint I am SICK OF MY HOT HOT DRYERS. Just try and pull clothes out of those things. As a customer, I would not want to scald my hands... My dryers are so damn hot and yet they still take 4-55 minutes.... Frustration.
4-55 mins,I guess you have the older SQ stack,68000 BTU,if I were you,I may not buy the same dryers ,even though they are cheap.Take about 24-32 mins to dry a load in my good old Loadstart II(80,000 BTU),customers still complaints once a while.
You may want to look for dryer dry fast so customers can get in and get out fast!My customers hate to wait for dryers.
Sunflower
08-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Hmmm, I have Huebsch Originators that are about 10 years old. They use 99,000 BTU's Per tumbler-I think. Not to fault Huebsch, these stacks are set up in the center of our building like an island. Maybe that's not good for them?
soapman
08-20-2006, 10:14 PM
Wow- 99,000 btu my new dryers are 55,000. Time for new dryers.
pete f
08-21-2006, 09:11 PM
Hmmm, I have Huebsch Originators that are about 10 years old. They use 99,000 BTU's Per tumbler-I think. Not to fault Huebsch, these stacks are set up in the center of our building like an island. Maybe that's not good for them?
NO way! Yours are stacks? No way. It is probably more like 1/2 that, which is why you complain about dry time. Higher BTU x CCM= faster dry time. What was you over all wash capicty now?
Hmmm, I have Huebsch Originators that are about 10 years old. They use 99,000 BTU's Per tumbler-I think. Not to fault Huebsch, these stacks are set up in the center of our building like an island. Maybe that's not good for them?
I don't think SQ/Huebsch ever made 99,000 BTU stack dryer,may be 99,000 BTU for the both pocket.If your SQ stack is same high as the single,you have the old one with 68,000 BTU,if they are 4" taller than the single,they will be the newer design,use 75,000 BTU,I looked into SQ stack once,I didn't buy any SQ stack,I could be wrong.
pete f
08-23-2006, 08:50 PM
NO way! Yours are stacks? No way. It is probably more like 1/2 that, which is why you complain about dry time. Higher BTU x CCM= faster dry time. What was you over all wash capicty now?
I saw the wash capacity, missed it earlier. Yes, out goes the back wall, you need more dryers.
Sunflower
09-27-2006, 01:05 PM
I'm almost (ALMOST) laughing now thinking that I've been limping along since May w/12 dryers!
Would you all please advise me on my new dryer selection? Remember, space is a huge thing for me.
I have:
10 - 20lb hardmount Huebsch frontloaders
03 - 18lb hardmount Wasco's Gen 5
01 - 50lb hardmount Wasco's Gen 5 and am looking for another used one.
01 - 40lb hardmount Huebsch
03 - Toploaders
398 lbs of Washing capacity
Based on Pete's calculator I figure I need a minimum of 17 30lbers.
Here's what I'm thinking in addition to the 12 Heubsch stacks I already have...
2 or 3 45 lb stacking dryers and
1 75 lb dryer.
There seems to be a lot of large comforters and sleeping bags around these parts...
(In another post Ken mentioned it probably wouldn't be wise to get new 30 pounders that might compete against my old ones. That seems to make sense to me.)
What do you think?
pete f
09-27-2006, 09:51 PM
You probably would do well with a couple 45# stacks. I would second guess a 75# dryer, you do not have any big washers , 75's, 80's and a sleeping bag will do just fine in a 45# dryer, plus the floor space.
Devide by 25 works, , but 23 you never run out of dryers. If you are seasonal 2 may do just fine, if you find business is good, then spring for 3 45 stacks.
PeterH
09-28-2006, 11:30 AM
A 75# dryer would comfortably hold a full load from a 50# washer.
A 50# dryer is cramped with a full load from a 40# washer. I advise my customers who use my 55# washers to split a full load between 2 50# dryers.
Anonymous
09-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Any update on the Solaris dryers?
PeterH
09-28-2006, 04:19 PM
My stacked WDA-530 (ADC built for Wascomat) are 102,000 BTU's. They were the last ones built; my distributor had to fight with Wascomat to get enough to fulfill my order. They were installed at the end of 2000.
My WDA-50's are 205,000 BTU's.
Sunflower
09-28-2006, 04:38 PM
Why don't they make them anymore?
ADC decide only make Solaris ,not make any other model.
PeterH
09-29-2006, 12:19 PM
And the models I have were made to Wascomat's specs. Kinda like how Whirlpool makes machines for Sears Kenmore with slightly different features.
I will say tho' that the WDA-530 is a fantastic dryer! I am soooo glad I got them when I did.
ADC/Wascomat 530 maybe the highest BTU 30# stack dryer in market.ADC change model often,high parts cost and not many dealers sell ADC parts in IL are the reasons I didn't buy them,ADC's factotry rep even post here before,they have no control for the parts cost for those dryers they no longer made.
Anonymous
09-29-2006, 08:54 PM
Check out the ADC web site, someone said they only make Solaris, looks like they have lots of other models.
ADC removed all other model before,I guess we have to call ADC on Mon to get the real story.
Anonymous
09-29-2006, 09:33 PM
That is strange I checked out their website and also saw they have the older ADC models listed again. Hmmmmmmmm...
elf1564
09-30-2006, 09:04 AM
They have restarted production of the OPL 50 pound model and one other size, 75 pound if I recall. The 50 pound OPL model was and is a real workhorse so I'm happy to see the model added back to the lineup again.
I'm not sure if this same machine will be offered as a coin-op model, perhaps the ADC rep could enlighten us?
dryersrus
10-03-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes Elf1564 it is offered in coin. We have introduced back in the production line some of the older models, here is a link to the coin models...http://www.amdry.com/products/coinop/ad78.asp Please check out the link and all of our site. It will answer all of your questions, If it doesn't as always you can contact me!
Thank You.
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