ADC Dryers

[buddy]

I am looking into replacing my 11 yrs old Huebsch JTD Dryers with new ADC. I looking to buy 30LB Stacks.

Has anyone bought new ADC dryers recently? I would like to get some feedback on it.

Also they have 3 different models AD-236, AD-330 and AD-360X2 but I am not sure what is the difference between them.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

I replaced huebsch stacks and SQ singles with ADC-236's about 2 years ago. Customers love them, and the only work I've done on any of them is clean lint draws. They are great!

[buddy]

Kirby, Since you have both, New Wasomat Dryers and ADC-236 which one would you prefer? Also, what is the price difference between them?


Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Don't know how you figured I have both - I do have Wasco washers but not dryers. The ADC's are time tested workhorses, the Wasco machines are too new to know much about. My Wasco distributor has more faith in the ADC's than the Wascos and still sells more ADC's if that tells you anything. Wasco is not pleased with him.

[buddy]

Sorry, somehow I thought you had baought new Wasco Dryers.

Thanks for your input.

[CharlieS]

I have the new Wasco TD3030 dryers in my new mat. My customers love them, they are easy to work on, are very efficient. They have been a little problematic, but this is still their first year in production. Wasco has been addressing problems well and tech support is good. These are axial airflow dryers and do not use a spider. The drum is supported by wheels front and rear.

Axial airflow dryers go from back to front, rather than top to bottom. The old approach was lots of air, lots of heat. The new approach is less heat, but push it through more slowly (less airflow), and force it through the middle of the dryer. My experience is that this approach works and saves me money.

I am planning to add 10 of the Maytag 32 STacks to my other 'mat. These are made by ADC, and are essentially the same as the 330, with a Maytag controller board. I would go with the Wasco, but prefer to keep the Maytag conformity. My Maytag dealer became very competitive when he realized I was willing to go with the Wascos. I could still get those at a slightly better price.

The 330 is an axial airflow dryer, using only 68,000 BTU per stack. It is also a spider support, with heavy bearings. Supposedly, these have longer life before repair, but then they are a lot of work to repair (10-15 years down the road).

The 236 is the standard old style stack. It uses 80,000 BTU, has the spider support.

The 360X2 uses the 4 wheel support method for the drum, is axial airflow, and burns 86,000 BTU per hour.

My Wasco's, with 71,600 BTU per pocket , and axial airflow, have convinced me that this axial, low BTU, low airflow concept actually works very well, saves me money on utilities, and pleases my customers. I don't have any data to support the benefits of the spider over the drum roller supports. However, I don't see any benefit in a higher BTU machine when the lower BTU machine will do the job just as well and save me money. I definitely don't want something like the 360X2, which has high consumption with axial flow. Sure, it dries fastest, but at my expense for gas, and how do I justify why my machines are .25 for 5 minutes when the competitors are 8-10 minutes. Customers won't necessarily understand.

ADC also has great financing, one of the best in the industry. If you buy their dryers, they will also finance other equipment. That applies to the Maytags as well, since ADC makes them.

Charlie

[David]

When I was buying my 50lb washer from NYLaundry, I talked to them about different dryers. Joe said he thought the ADC 235 was the best dryer ADC ever built, but that the footprint can be a determining factor if you limited on space.

What kind of footprints do the 236, 330 and 360x2 have?

[CharlieS]

All the details can be found here

http://www.amdry.com/products/coinop.html

Charlie

[buddy]

Charlie,
Thanks for your input.

If you don't mind, how much did you pay for Wasco Stacks?. I just talked to the dealer and he did not seem very enthusiastic about sales. He quoted me $3985 for Wasomat, ADC-236 and Huebsch -same exact price.

He was saying that since I have old Huebsch, I should buy Huebsch because they are same foot prints. Wasco and ADC are deeper by 6 inches.

I went to the manufacturer's site for all three of them and foud out that Wasco's depth is same as Huebsch but they are about an inch taller. ADC is about 10 inches deeper than Huebcsh.

He did not tell me how much the installation would cost.

[Anonymous]

I believe that the 235 and 236 have the same footprint and are almost identical machines. When I bought my 236 they had just come out and ADC told me that they were still making the 235 for people that wanted to match existing 235's but the 236 was an upgraded 235.

I'm not sure I buy that axial is better than radial nor that low BTU is better than High BTU. I had low btu axial Huebsch and they were junk.


Also the BTU rating is the maximum capacity of the burner, it does not mean that the dryer is actually burning that much fuel all the time.

It would be nice if someone (CLA???) would setup one of every dryer and run some real world testing to tell us definitively what is best.

[anonymous]

Seems like the price differentials are very small. I have ADC-330 stacks and Dexter stacks. Bought the ADC stacks first in 1995. I have not had to replace anything but belts. They dry at 150 degrees on high, and force the air through back to front. They seem to be very gas efficient.

However, if your distributor has an ADC stack dryer on hand, visit him and ask for a demonstration on how to change a belt... not a verbal description, but an actual demo before you decide on ADC. On my units, the belts are changed from the front, and it is a much different experience than changing a belt from the rear. I have just started my third set of belts with these 7 year old dryers.

Just a suggestion before you commit.

[Anonymous]

All ADC's are different, my 236's have belts in the back only - very easy to get at. They also run on high at 180 degrees, but the thermo probe is right at the basket, I think a lot in the temperature has to do with where you measure it.

[anonymous]

According to my manual, my ADC's run at 150 degrees on high, and my temp. probe says the same. I can only program the machine to go 150 degrees max. I always measure temperature inside the drum. After all, that's the location of the clothes. Just call me silly.

[Todd]

Bubbles, which dryers do you like better, the adc's or the dexters.

[buddy]

I would love to replace my Huebsch 32DG with ADC 236 but unfortunately although ADC are narrower they are deeper by about 9 inches so it will be difficult to service them since there won't be much room left behind the dryers.

I have now a choice between Huebsch and Wascos. Wascos are slightly taller but that is not a problem. I don't know how the new Huebsch Dryers are I would love to hear from someone who has recently purchased Huebsch.

Which Dryers - Huebschs or Wasco?

Thanks

[mike]

Once burned, twice shy.
I was unhappy with my Huebsch stacks.
I bought wascomat TD-3030 stacks, now I'm happy ! (or as close as I'm ever gonna get.)