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mr_soap
11-22-2004, 10:44 AM
W125 Machine shakes, I tighten the nut
2 days later its loose again
Can this be fixed without lifting the machine any Ideas.
I double nutted the stud no help??
Thanks
If it is just the nuts coming loose and not the stud you can use heavy duty loctite thread locker on the threads and also if you have room I would put a new flat washer and a new lock washer.
Glenn
11-22-2004, 05:25 PM
Does the washer shake because the nut keeps loosening or does the washers shaking cause the nut to loosen? Is the washer on a pad or steel frame? Does the pad or frame also shake?
mr_soap
11-22-2004, 05:54 PM
Machine sits on concrete pad. Pad is solid and stable
I think the anchor is moving in the hole.
thanks
Anonymous
11-22-2004, 07:40 PM
check ur pm
CharlieS
11-24-2004, 10:48 AM
See if you can get the anchor to come up out of the hole. If you can get it out, you can replace it with a piece of allthread rod, glued in with a concrete epoxy. The good stuff is not cheap but will do the job. If you can't get it out, you could drill a new hole through the frame and switch to a concrete drill. However, its easier to pull the whole thing out.
Charlie
TTLES
11-25-2004, 08:28 AM
Thats Some Real Bad Advice... Do Not Drill A Hole In The Frame, Especially On A Gen 5. !!!!
Gen5 doesn't have strong steel farme.
If you bolts get loose,if you run without back panel back,if you run without front panel,the washer will move like crazy.
I saw a W185 had broken farme because the back panel was not installed and anchor bolts were loose.
Check your farme,put the washer out of service until you find out the problem otherwise will cost you more to replace frame or the washer!
Anonymous
11-25-2004, 02:18 PM
I have drilled the frame on unimacs with no problem.
mr_soap
11-25-2004, 07:51 PM
I was able to remove the nut and big washers there was plenty
of space around the the stud I hammered the stud back down
and will fill with epoxy for cement and retighten.
This should work?
I have drilled the frame on unimacs with no problem.
Unimac,Wascomat Gen3,4 and others have strong steel frame,the Wascomat Gen5,6 have unibody style frame,the frame steel is very light and the back panel is part of the farme.That is why drill into the frame may not be a good idea for them.
If you are going to use epoxy,get some real good one from Hilti or Redhead,don't just get any cheap epoxy,you don't want to do the job twice.
If you can find stainless steel nuts,bolts,use stainless steel.
CharlieS
11-27-2004, 03:20 AM
I should have clarified when I said frame. I meant to drill a new hole in the mounting frame, not the machine frame.
Really, when it comes right down to it, its just a lot easier to pull the whole thing down, reset a rod, and put it back together.
Charlie
mr_soap
11-27-2004, 03:22 PM
I have decided to take the machine off the pad.
I have two steps one 7" high and 12" high the studs stick up 3"
How do you do this the machine weighs 475 lbs.
Please help
TTLES
11-27-2004, 08:19 PM
A pallet jack works well, if not, a milk crate.
Remove all electric , hoses, & foundation nuts. Tilt the machine forward or backward and place 2 pieces of pipe, 3" diameter, 6" long under the frame sides. Pivot the machine and roll forward onto the jack or crate. I used to use a 2x4 frame placed over 2 milk crates, worked pretty well.
Make a plywood template of the bolt holes and use the template to set a new bolt.
In any machine, wasco, unimac dexter ect...YOU SHOULD NEVER CHANGE THE MOUNTING BOLT LOCATION BY DRILLING HOLES IN THE FRAME.
Anonymous
11-27-2004, 08:53 PM
"YOU SHOULD NEVER CHANGE THE MOUNTING BOLT LOCATION BY DRILLING HOLES IN THE FRAME"
just curious why?
Thanks
TTLES
11-27-2004, 09:16 PM
Bolt holes are located in specific locations that transfers the stress loads of extraction to specific points through out the machine. These locations are engenered to reduce vibrations, controll centrifigual force, and maintain structural integrity. One of the main reasons for premature bearing failure is machine installation. We have had to rebolt many machines, where people had taken a short cut and drilled a hole and bolted the machine in a different location....it doesn't usually hold up!
hope this answers your question.
Most washers have real steel frame,they maybe ok but not Wascomat Gen5,6,they have unibody frame,they are super light steel.
TTLES
11-28-2004, 03:11 PM
drilling a frame hole is not the right way to make a repair on ANY machine with ANY frame. There is a right way and a wrong way and you can do it any way you want !
pete f
11-28-2004, 03:59 PM
I only had to remount one washer so far in all the years, I just paid the installer to do it, only so many things I can do to save money, some end up costing me more than I saved..
I assume the washer is on a steel base, this base COULD be drilled on the floor side and re bolted or not? MY installer took the machine out, redid the bolts that were loose in the floor and remounted. I spent a week behind it drilling and screwing around first.
mr_soap
11-28-2004, 06:47 PM
I was able to remove the old anchor and replaced it with a longer one
I drilled about 2-1/2" deeper. I filled the hole with anchoring expoxy
I ran the machine empty seemed fine. I left the machine out of service
until tommorrow.
Thanks for all of your input.
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