There is no inflation in our economy

[Anonymous]

This past August my sewer bill increased by 8%. I thought that was rather severe but was assured it was warranted and there would be no increases for several years. Today I got my sewer bill and it went up again, this time by 9.5% in less than 9 months. So much for low inflation.

[pete f]

We are in a bad situation when it comes to pricing with inflation. Energy and water, our biggest expense have certainly moved higher than overall inflation. Rent if you are on CPI is going up staedy. Tack on insurance costs and other misc expenses our own piece of pie gets less cherry in it every year. Anyone bought a Mc D's apple pie recently? AT least they can take out some apple. What do we do? Realize we deal with poorer people overall, and jumping ahead of inflation on pricing does not seem right. Still, we all have to make a living and return, which brings the idea that a less of return is OK now that CD's and T-Bills are around 2%. So our less return means we are still doing OK?

[BWJR]

Pete,

Enter the Neptune. I have 15 of them, my utilities have gone up a little and my volume has increased 20%. There is a way.
I am still considering increasing my washer prices though.

BWJR

[pete f]

I have done the same thing, started with putting in IPSO 12#'s in 2 mats about 3 years ago. My water bill went down a great amount, I have swapped out even more tops for Neptunes or put in bigger hard mounts, so my revenue to water costs gained, but now the gains are being eaten up in the rising costs, negating my investemts now. Yes, increases seem likley, yet inflation adjusted I am quite ahead of that curve already. Brings the point, maybe we have to settle for less returns than we had 5 years ago, partly becuase investment alternatives are also much lower now. Like all other busniess we will see savings in new technology but have to keep investing to take advantage of it. Good thing for the big sec 179 deduction!~ Anyone sitting with a mat full of tops, super 20's Bendix Dexters, Milnors or/ and old gas dryers are getting eaten up by utilities. I guess this is why don't care if a washer lasts for 25 years, it will be obsolete in terms of utility costs by then.

[BWJR]

Pete,

Don't forget about the boiler. That probably uses up more Gas than all the dryers put together. I have mine set at about 100 degrees. No complaints especially with most of my equipment being front loaders. Hopefully it doesn't cause any problems with the function of the boiler.

BWJR

[Anonymous]

whats the hot water temp in most mats?

[Gary C]

I run mine at 120

Gary

[Anonymous]

In my country we had big inflation previous years. It was even 90%. Last year it was 14%. This year government set the 9% inflation goal.
Here it is usual that utilyties prices rise every 4 or 6 month by 5 to 10%.
Peoples comment a lot about that but get used to it and keep using services or buyng products.
If the utilities prices rise, than I rise the price for my services. It is easy to rise the prices by small steps if yu have card system.
If you always inform peoples you rise the prices only because of the inflation than I think they will understand.
I agree with Pete, no need for equipment to last 25 years. That is why I prefer a small busy mat to a large one. Let the machines work for you now, recover your investment quickly and move on.

[Neil]

Originally posted by Neal
whats the hot water temp in most mats?

I set mine to the lowest setting and it is right between 120 - 125.

[MichaelCa]

At 120 deg.

[Anonymous]

Are you saying you set your boiler temp to 120 degrees, or the water going out of the Holding tank is 120 degrees, or the water going into the washer is 120 degrees? There is a difference.

[Neil]

I haven't tested the water temp at the machines but even though I have the water heater at it's lowest setting, I suspect the water is close to 130. There is a substantial amount of steam that comes out of the water as the washer fills and usually 120 won't do that unless the surrounding air is very dry and here in FL, it is not.