Bearing Replacement Wasco 184

[CharlieS]

Okay, I've finally gotten around to doing this bearing job. Had to find a puller big enough to get the housing off, and now I find I need an even longer puller than this one to get the rear bearing out.

Tools! Are there any special tools that any of you recommend for this job? I'd rather buy the right tools than hire somebody for the same amount. I think Wasco sells a kit, is it worth whatever the price is?

Thanks
Charlie

[TTLES]

You need a spanner to take off the pulley, A bearing driver to install the bearings, a sealdriver to install the seals, and a big two arm puller to remove the housing and a two arm puller with metric thread legs to remove the gable. An angle grinder and a die grinder with wire wheels to clean all sealing surfaces. A tube of silicone and a tube of 3-M 800 sealant.

Wascomat has a basic puller kit, last I looked , it was about $ 1200.00 . I f you don't do it right it will last about 3 months.

Suggestion.... pull out the whole cylinder assembly and have it rebuilt or exchanged.

[Ken]

What is a spanner?
What is silicone and 3 M 800 sealan for?
I always take the bearing house out,take bearings,c clip,grease out then put the bearing house back to pull the back plate out.
I use the same puller for bearing house and the back plate.

[TTLES]

The spanner is for the pulley retaining nut and sleeve. The bearing housing is pulled off with a puller with arms. The gable ie pulled off with a puller with legs threaded into the gable. The silicone is for the gable to outer tub seal. The 800 sealant is to seal the outter edge of the seals to the gable. The 184 with a 990220 kit is done differently than a W124 with a 990219 kit. It is similar to a W74 or a W 124 with a 990218 kit, with the exception of the pulley.

The angle grinder is for cleaning up the gable sealing surface and the outter tub surface. The die grinder is for cleaning up the area of the gable where the seals are installed.

[Ken]

I used screw driver and hammer to get the nut out.
I thought I only need to put the seal in the gable,will try the 800 sealant next time.
A serviceman told me I need special grease for the seal,the other told me I need to pack the seal with grease.
I have done a lot Wascomat bearing job,used different kit too but always fun to learn different way or tool to do that.I only have 2,3 fail because I used the Beesmart kit,I won't use their Wasco bearing kit again.

[CharlieS]

I have everything off, except the larger bearing behind the housing. I bought a puller set for the housing, but its not long enough to to get to the bearing.

Charlie

[TTLES]

The large front bearing is pulled off with the gable. You need a puller with legs threaded into two of the holes that held the bolts from the bearing housing. The seals are installed into the gable. Make sure you change the seal face bushing (collar). A hot plate works well to install the new bushing. Use a Dremel cut off wheel to remove the old bushing. For your info: When we do these machines we also do the following:
Power wash the entire machine
Wire wheel all rust
Cold galvanize coumpound paint the frame
Prime and paint white side panels
Prime and paint control panel ( black or brown)
New instruction sign and name strip
Soap lid and clean Stainless
Motor Bearings if needed

Put the machine back in and it looks and sounds brand new , and its ready to run for another 8 years.

[CharlieS]

TTLES - Just curious, what do you guys charge for the full repair you described?

Thanks
Charlie

[Anonymous]

We used to charge 800.00$ for a 184 bearing job,just bearings not the other stuff described.This job can be done with fewer simpler tools but having the right ones makes a world of difference.A 184 is where it becomes much more difficult because of the shear size.18,30# are assembled the same way and can be done by one man,a second is necessary on the 50,75 etc.TTLES is on the money with the procedure.MAKE SURE you orient the seals properly(which direction they face)and seat them evenly or you'll be doing the job over again in a couple of months.Good luck.

[Ken]

I paid $600-650 last year for the whole job(remove washerelectric,water etc),$450-500 for the exchage.They all used skf bearing and aftermarket kit,so far so good.
I did a few cost me $100 parts and hire a helper,it is about 4-6 hours job.
When the first time I did a W74,took me over 24 hours because I didn't have good puller and didn't know what I was doing.

[TTLES]

F>Y>I> $ 950.00...motor bearings @ $105.00 Soap lids , name strips , instruction sign ,, these parts @ additional $$ Only SKF with stainless steel bushing... Be careful of chromed copper alloy bushing sold with some kits.

[Ken]

Where did you buy your kit?
I have not seen anyone buy or sell original Wascio kit for a while.
Most are aftermarket because the cost,how much is a Wasco factory kit cost?I know I and my servicemen use SKF bearing,don't know much about the bush.
Does original Wasco's bush is chormed ?Must bush I took out,look like chormed.